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		<title>By: shootdatarget</title>
		<link>http://webgrrrl.net/archives/secure-your-domain-name-scams-been-there-done-that.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9559</link>
		<dc:creator>shootdatarget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hai

thx for the post, and i am save from his SCAM!!!

-------------------- email that i get ----------------------------
In the next few days, xxxx.com will be listed for sale.  Since you have a similar domain name, we thought you might be interested in acquiring e-css.com.
You can confirm your interest in the domain e-css.com by filling out the form here: XXXXXXXXXX
After we receive a confirmation that you are interested in the domain e-css.com, our sales staff will be in touch with you promptly to make arrangements.

We look forward to hearing back from you. 

Kind regards,
InTrust Domains
11605 Meridian Mkt V #124-134
Falcon, CO 80831
 
If you are not interested in future priority notices, please simply reply to this message
No more please: xxxxxxxxxxx

------------------------ EOF --------------------------
from email: john@initrustbestnames.info

be careful guys...

WHat i do is i just put this email under phishing scam filter......

&quot;we already have so many trouble and don&#039;t add more trouble to our head Mr. John&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hai</p>
<p>thx for the post, and i am save from his SCAM!!!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; email that i get &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
In the next few days, xxxx.com will be listed for sale.  Since you have a similar domain name, we thought you might be interested in acquiring e-css.com.<br />
You can confirm your interest in the domain e-css.com by filling out the form here: XXXXXXXXXX<br />
After we receive a confirmation that you are interested in the domain e-css.com, our sales staff will be in touch with you promptly to make arrangements.</p>
<p>We look forward to hearing back from you. </p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
InTrust Domains<br />
11605 Meridian Mkt V #124-134<br />
Falcon, CO 80831</p>
<p>If you are not interested in future priority notices, please simply reply to this message<br />
No more please: xxxxxxxxxxx</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; EOF &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
from email: <a href="mailto:john@initrustbestnames.info">john@initrustbestnames.info</a></p>
<p>be careful guys&#8230;</p>
<p>WHat i do is i just put this email under phishing scam filter&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;we already have so many trouble and don&#8217;t add more trouble to our head Mr. John&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://webgrrrl.net/archives/secure-your-domain-name-scams-been-there-done-that.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9531</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I was just duped by Intrustdomains.com I asked all the right questions; if they owned the domain, if they represented a client that &quot;hired&quot; them, etc. I figured they were probably making a profit somehow off of buying it cheap somehow. I checked godaddy and it was claimed and did not see a premium listing or anything else, so I had no other way of finding where it was being sold for cheap. It is a good domain even for the 97 so I am not too upset. Right now the Whois shows myself as the owner but I willl not feel comfortable until I successfully transfer it to my main godaddy account. I am having trouble with that right now. Any one know how to transfer out of Intrustdomains?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I was just duped by Intrustdomains.com I asked all the right questions; if they owned the domain, if they represented a client that &#8220;hired&#8221; them, etc. I figured they were probably making a profit somehow off of buying it cheap somehow. I checked godaddy and it was claimed and did not see a premium listing or anything else, so I had no other way of finding where it was being sold for cheap. It is a good domain even for the 97 so I am not too upset. Right now the Whois shows myself as the owner but I willl not feel comfortable until I successfully transfer it to my main godaddy account. I am having trouble with that right now. Any one know how to transfer out of Intrustdomains?</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Jones</title>
		<link>http://webgrrrl.net/archives/secure-your-domain-name-scams-been-there-done-that.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9504</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello:

Those dudes from http://intrustdomainsonline.com/ also sent to me the same kind of notice that one domain very similar to my domainname was becoming available.  I had been monitoring it since a year ago as it was owned by a former partner who surely wanted to bargain with it, but we just ignored it, added a dash to that same domainname making it something like domain-name.com, also bought the .org without the dash in the middle but not the .net.  In any case the business we own was booming and everybody new about it trhough blog and through gossips.  The former partner had to renew and keep paying with no more bidders because we were the only ones.  So he gave up.  The domain was due in last september and was in this period of &quot;redemption&quot; through one of those &quot;nobodies&quot; Registrars who are awful, until NETSOL had it available again!!!  I recommend NETSOL I&#039;ve been with them for 11 years.  So I bought it and I DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO SEND A MESSAGE TO those oportunists of http://intrustdomainsonline.com/  .   I just wanted to tell you that whenever some one tells you that SUCH DOMAIN is ALMOST available, YOU BETTER CHECK ANY WHOIS and rather go to NETSOL.COM check it , BUY IT and ignore the oportunists like http://intrustdomainsonline.com/.

DON&#039;T ANSWER  AND DON&#039;T FORWARD ANY MAIL THAT YOU GET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p>
<p>Those dudes from <a href="http://intrustdomainsonline.com/" rel="nofollow">http://intrustdomainsonline.com/</a> also sent to me the same kind of notice that one domain very similar to my domainname was becoming available.  I had been monitoring it since a year ago as it was owned by a former partner who surely wanted to bargain with it, but we just ignored it, added a dash to that same domainname making it something like domain-name.com, also bought the .org without the dash in the middle but not the .net.  In any case the business we own was booming and everybody new about it trhough blog and through gossips.  The former partner had to renew and keep paying with no more bidders because we were the only ones.  So he gave up.  The domain was due in last september and was in this period of &#8220;redemption&#8221; through one of those &#8220;nobodies&#8221; Registrars who are awful, until NETSOL had it available again!!!  I recommend NETSOL I&#8217;ve been with them for 11 years.  So I bought it and I DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO SEND A MESSAGE TO those oportunists of <a href="http://intrustdomainsonline.com/" rel="nofollow">http://intrustdomainsonline.com/</a>  .   I just wanted to tell you that whenever some one tells you that SUCH DOMAIN is ALMOST available, YOU BETTER CHECK ANY WHOIS and rather go to NETSOL.COM check it , BUY IT and ignore the oportunists like <a href="http://intrustdomainsonline.com/" rel="nofollow">http://intrustdomainsonline.com/</a>.</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T ANSWER  AND DON&#8217;T FORWARD ANY MAIL THAT YOU GET.</p>
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		<title>By: campy1</title>
		<link>http://webgrrrl.net/archives/secure-your-domain-name-scams-been-there-done-that.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9436</link>
		<dc:creator>campy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - just to share my experience.  I got an email from InTrust Domains / John Timmers which I also assumed was a scam.  They said a domain name similar to mine but without the annoying dash/hyphen was coming up and would I be interested.

Out of curiosity, and because it was safe enough to do so, I named a relatively low price, which was accepted.

I thought I would wait and finally they mailed me to say they could offer the domain to me for the price I asked. I sent a couple of emails with pointed questions to check if they would scam me e.g. by not releasing the domain once I had paid. Both emails were answered personally and fast.
As the sum of money was low, I decided to risk it.  I actually screwed up the CC info (right name,wrong cc brand), so mailed them to see if the transaction had gone through.  Again they replied back personally to say no problem.  I now have the domain in my name on WHOIS and have been told I can transfer in 60 days.

Their business model seems to be to hunt out &#039;better&#039; domain names that are expiring (i.e. ones that don&#039;t have fiddly things like hyphens) and alert the owner.  If the owner is switched on / got time on their hands, they will zip off to see if they can purchase the expiring domain direct.

If not (I was too busy with work), once they detect the prospective purchaser is happy to purchase and states a value, they register the just expired domain themselves (paying to do so, I assume).  They then (in my case) accept the offered bid - no painful haggling as I was expecting - and just pocket the difference in fees.

Frankly their quality of service (i.e. responsiveness) was better than most web firms I encounter.  They may be cute, but - up to now - they aren&#039;t scammers.  Frankly, if you aren&#039;t smart enough to keep any eye out for domains you want, these people are doing you a favour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; just to share my experience.  I got an email from InTrust Domains / John Timmers which I also assumed was a scam.  They said a domain name similar to mine but without the annoying dash/hyphen was coming up and would I be interested.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, and because it was safe enough to do so, I named a relatively low price, which was accepted.</p>
<p>I thought I would wait and finally they mailed me to say they could offer the domain to me for the price I asked. I sent a couple of emails with pointed questions to check if they would scam me e.g. by not releasing the domain once I had paid. Both emails were answered personally and fast.<br />
As the sum of money was low, I decided to risk it.  I actually screwed up the CC info (right name,wrong cc brand), so mailed them to see if the transaction had gone through.  Again they replied back personally to say no problem.  I now have the domain in my name on WHOIS and have been told I can transfer in 60 days.</p>
<p>Their business model seems to be to hunt out &#8216;better&#8217; domain names that are expiring (i.e. ones that don&#8217;t have fiddly things like hyphens) and alert the owner.  If the owner is switched on / got time on their hands, they will zip off to see if they can purchase the expiring domain direct.</p>
<p>If not (I was too busy with work), once they detect the prospective purchaser is happy to purchase and states a value, they register the just expired domain themselves (paying to do so, I assume).  They then (in my case) accept the offered bid &#8211; no painful haggling as I was expecting &#8211; and just pocket the difference in fees.</p>
<p>Frankly their quality of service (i.e. responsiveness) was better than most web firms I encounter.  They may be cute, but &#8211; up to now &#8211; they aren&#8217;t scammers.  Frankly, if you aren&#8217;t smart enough to keep any eye out for domains you want, these people are doing you a favour.</p>
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		<title>By: smartgirl</title>
		<link>http://webgrrrl.net/archives/secure-your-domain-name-scams-been-there-done-that.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9425</link>
		<dc:creator>smartgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These same folks at InTrust Domains tried to scam me too. Said they owned the domain I wanted and would sell it to me.  We negotiated a price and then I checked the WHOIS records on my coveted domain.  Found out InTrust didn&#039;t own it.  Then they tried to claim they were in some type of partnership with the actual owner of the domain and they would negotiate a sale.  I didn&#039;t believe them.  Turns out I was right.  The rightful owner of the domain offered it for public auction on Go Daddy and I won the auction for half the price I would have paid InTrust Domains to &quot;possibly&quot; secure it.  When in doubt, check the Whois records to find the actual owner of a domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These same folks at InTrust Domains tried to scam me too. Said they owned the domain I wanted and would sell it to me.  We negotiated a price and then I checked the WHOIS records on my coveted domain.  Found out InTrust didn&#8217;t own it.  Then they tried to claim they were in some type of partnership with the actual owner of the domain and they would negotiate a sale.  I didn&#8217;t believe them.  Turns out I was right.  The rightful owner of the domain offered it for public auction on Go Daddy and I won the auction for half the price I would have paid InTrust Domains to &#8220;possibly&#8221; secure it.  When in doubt, check the Whois records to find the actual owner of a domain.</p>
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		<title>By: anerbenartzi</title>
		<link>http://webgrrrl.net/archives/secure-your-domain-name-scams-been-there-done-that.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9263</link>
		<dc:creator>anerbenartzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this blog entry.  I got an email from InTrust (don&#039;t trust people that say &quot;trust me&quot;, eh?), and now I know to ignore it and just wait.  Thanks Webgrrrl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this blog entry.  I got an email from InTrust (don&#8217;t trust people that say &#8220;trust me&#8221;, eh?), and now I know to ignore it and just wait.  Thanks Webgrrrl.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael @ Retire Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael @ Retire Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately these things are becoming more and more common. It could be things like this or people wanting you to renew your domain subscription for a higher fee. Unfortunately it has to be working as they have been doing this for many years now.

/Mikael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately these things are becoming more and more common. It could be things like this or people wanting you to renew your domain subscription for a higher fee. Unfortunately it has to be working as they have been doing this for many years now.</p>
<p>/Mikael</p>
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